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Is it permissible to call upon a dead wali




Is it permissible to call upon a dead wali (“saint”) or Hazrat ‘Ali

Q: forgive me, I have more than 1 question.
1. Is the Prophet Sallalahu Alaihe Wasallam or any other being apart from Allah Omnipresent?
2. Can we call on anyone in times of need ie. a dead saint or Hazrat Ali Radialahahu anhu etc?
Please could you quote the relevent Hadith and Qur'an Ayahs

A: Praise be to Allaah.

First of all, we must comment on your saying in your question, “or any
other being apart from Allah…” We must point out that this wording is
wrong, because it may be taken as meaning that you think that Allaah is a
created being; but we are sure that you do not believe that.

Firstly:

Allaah said to His Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him):
“Verily, you (O Muhammad) will die, and verily, they (too) will die” [al-Zumar 39:30], {إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ وَإِنَّهُم مَّيِّتُونَ}, Transliteration: 'Innaka Mayyitun Wa 'Innahum Mayyitūna

And Allaah said (interpretation of the meaning):
“Muhammad is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have
passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then turn
back on your heels (as disbelievers)?” [Aal ‘Imraan 3:144], {وَمَا
مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِن
مَّاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ انقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰ أَعْقَابِكُمْ}
,
Transliteration: Wa Mā Muĥammadun 'Illā Rasūlun Qad Khalat Min Qablihi
Ar-Rusulu 'Afa'īn Māta 'Aw Qutila Anqalabtum `Alá 'A`qābikum

“And We granted not to any human being immortality before you (O
Muhammad); then if you die, would they live forever? [al-Anbiyaa’
21:34], {وَمَا جَعَلْنَا لِبَشَرٍ مِّن قَبْلِكَ الْخُلْدَ ۖ أَفَإِن مِّتَّ فَهُمُ الْخَالِدُونَ}, Transliteration: Wa Mā Ja`alnā Libasharin Min Qablika Al-Khulda 'Afa'īn Mitta Fahumu Al-Khālidūna

Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said, in his speech after the
Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had died, “Whoever
used to worship Muhammad, Muhammad has died, but whoever used to worship
Allaah, Allaah is Alive and will never die.” [Narrated by al-Bukhaari].


This and similar evidence indicates that Muhammad (peace and blessings
of Allaah be upon him) was a human being like all other human beings,
who died as they die, and will never be immortal just as no one before
him was immortal.

Whoever wants to put the Prophet beyond the human realm and claim that
the Prophet is present in all places, is the one who should be asked to
produce evidence (daleel). How does he know that the Prophet is
omnipresent at all times? Moreover, those who make the same claim with
regard to Allaah (should know that) this is kufr, deviation and
misguidance. This belief implies that Allaah is present even in dirty
places like bathrooms etc. – Glorified be Allaah far above what they
say.

Secondly:

- You have to read the book Fath al-Majeed Sharh Kitaab al-Tawheed, by Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Hasan.

- Know that du’aa’ and asking for help are forms of worship, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And your Lord said: ‘Invoke Me [i.e. believe in My Oneness (Islamic
Monotheism) and ask Me for anything] I will respond to your
(invocation). Verily, those who scorn My worship [i.e. do not invoke Me,
and do not believe in My Oneness, (Islamic Monotheism)] they will
surely enter Hell in humiliation!’” [Ghaafir 40:60], {وَقَالَ
رَبُّكُمُ ادْعُونِي أَسْتَجِبْ لَكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يَسْتَكْبِرُونَ
عَنْ عِبَادَتِي سَيَدْخُلُونَ جَهَنَّمَ دَاخِرِينَ}
,
Transliteration: Wa Qāla Rabbukum Ad`ūnī 'Astajib Lakum 'Inna Al-Ladhīna
Yastakbirūna `An `Ibādatī Sayadkhulūna Jahannama Dākhirīna

And according to a report narrated by al-Tirmidhi, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: «Du’aa’ is worship.»

So it is not permissible to offer du’aa’ to or call upon anyone except
Allaah. But the evidence indicates that it is permissible to ask another
person for some things, but that is subject to two conditions :

1- That it should be something possible and the person should be able to
do it, such as asking a person to give you money when you are in need
of it. But if it is something that he is not able to do, then it is not
permissible for you to ask him, such as asking a man to let you be one
of the people of Paradise, because he is not able to do that even if he
is a righteous and pious man.

2- The person who is asked should be capable, such as one who is alive.
It is not permissible to call upon the dead, as Allaah says
(interpretation of the meaning):
“And those, whom you invoke or call upon instead of Him, own not even a Qitmeer (the thin membrane over the date stone).
If you invoke (or call upon) them, they hear not your call; and if (in
case) they were to hear, they could not grant it (your request) to you
[Faatir 35:13-14],
{وَالَّذِينَ تَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِهِ مَا يَمْلِكُونَ
مِن قِطْمِيرٍ ﴿١٣﴾ إِن تَدْعُوهُمْ لَا يَسْمَعُوا دُعَاءَكُمْ وَلَوْ
سَمِعُوا مَا اسْتَجَابُوا لَكُمْ}
, Transliteration: Wa Al-Ladhīna
Tad`ūna Min Dūnihi Mā Yamlikūna Min Qiţmīrin, 'In Tad`ūhum Lā Yasma`ū
Du`ā'akum Wa Law Sami`ū Mā Astajābū Lakum
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